keep in mind, though, everybody who was talking to them, the people on the ground in libya, the c.i.a., they were all saying it's terrorism. it was an attack. what is curious, though, is the -- and so that is ben rhodes. ben rhodes' brother is david rhodes, the president of cbs where sheryl atkissson used to work. she quit because she said cbs wouldn't let her do stories like on benghazi. she says that congressman chaffetz told her the government tried to keep this classified. they declassified it initially. yeah, you can look at this. then when they reallied the house oversight committee wanted it, they blacked out so much stuff t didn't make any sense. that's why judicial watch sued them. that's why we now know that it leads back to the white house. >> right. mike morell also involved there, saying, he was the deputy c.i.a. direct, i'll volunteer to go meet with hillary clinton to work out a message here because it looks too good for the c.i.a. because the c.i.a. knew this was dangerous and warned ahead of time and that they didn't wants to look basically too good and make the f.b.i